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What about the [[Minister of Theocratic Affairs]]?  And is there anyone else we should mention here?  [[User:Baron of Bastanchury|Baron of Bastanchury]] ([[User talk:Baron of Bastanchury|talk]]) 05:55, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
There are several factual errors in the diagram. I'm removing it until it can be fixed.


* Commissioner of Elections is missing.
* King of Arms isn't a Ministry, and will not report to the Prime Minister.
* "Foreign Office Ministry" should read "Foreign Minister"
* Captain of the Royal Guards is the head of the Royal Guards, like the Ministers are the heads of their Ministries. Having "Royal Guards" on here is redundant.
* There is currently no independent Ministry of Immigration, it's Citizenship & Immigration.
* The Civilian Corps is another hybrid position, where it falls under Citizenship & Immigration structurally, but the head technically reports directly to the Grand Duke.


No, that position no longer exists.  Same with Minister of the Environment. ~Travis (from Homburg, Germany)
In my opinion, this Infographic is only going to become more and more cumbersome, as Westarctica progresses. If it is going to be up, it should be correct, and be regularly updated to reflect the current Government structure. -Jordan
 
== Issues with the chart and information within article ==
 
I just wanted to point out a number of errors with the article and corresponding chart:
 
- Ellsworth King of Arms is a Council-Level position, and falls directly under the Grand Duke, as it is not a Ministry
- Commissioner of the Civilian Corps is a hybrid position, much like the Captain of the Royal Guard. It is, in theory, subordinate to the Ministry of Citizenship and Immigration (and will follow the Citizens Affairs side, should they ever be split), but in practice reports directly to the Grand Duke.
- More of a nit-pick, but my understanding is that until appointed as a Minister, Danni's role is Council-Level, and not subordinate to the Prime Minister.
- Two Ministries are mislabeled: Citizenship & Immigration and Foreign Affairs.
 
Also, the roles of Prime Minister and High Commissioner seem redundant/at odds with each other. The position of PM was officially abolished when Westarctica returned to a monarchy and the role of High Commissioner seems to have been intended to take its place. More a reflection on the state of affairs, than the article, but there it is.
 
To be frank, I have a fairly good grasp on the workings of Westarctica's government, and I find this convoluted and confusing. I cannot think of how to correct these things without essentially writing a new article. The whole article seems superfluous, and I would ask the following three questions:
 
- What does this article add that isn't already covered in the pages for the Royal Council, Grand Duke, and Prime Minister?
- Is this article actually answering more questions than it raises?
- Is the point to collect information on a single article, even though it already can be found elsewhere, even if not explained quite so thoroughly? Because the Order Status article did essentially the same thing, and was deleted as a "content fork."
 
At the end of the day, I don't think this article meets the two goals of providing correct information, and doing so as clearly as possible. Just my two cents, do with it what you will.
 
-Jordan

Latest revision as of 06:01, 24 December 2018

There are several factual errors in the diagram. I'm removing it until it can be fixed.

  • Commissioner of Elections is missing.
  • King of Arms isn't a Ministry, and will not report to the Prime Minister.
  • "Foreign Office Ministry" should read "Foreign Minister"
  • Captain of the Royal Guards is the head of the Royal Guards, like the Ministers are the heads of their Ministries. Having "Royal Guards" on here is redundant.
  • There is currently no independent Ministry of Immigration, it's Citizenship & Immigration.
  • The Civilian Corps is another hybrid position, where it falls under Citizenship & Immigration structurally, but the head technically reports directly to the Grand Duke.

In my opinion, this Infographic is only going to become more and more cumbersome, as Westarctica progresses. If it is going to be up, it should be correct, and be regularly updated to reflect the current Government structure. -Jordan

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