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==Marie Byrd Land et al.==
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For the record, and for others to dispute if I have this info incorrect: Westarctica has often been described as coterminous with Marie Byrd Land, but this is in error: the specific coordinates for MBL in terms of degrees longitude and latitude actually extend further ''west'' than the boundary of Westarctica, and do not go far enough ''east'' to include the entire country.  Where MBL leaves off, Ellsworth Land begins, and EL extends further ''east'' than the boundaries of Westarctica.  The issue appears to be that MBL and EL are designations of "lands" that have no political significance and very little geological significance, but were labeled and given boundaries at some point and are still used to refer to these "places" in scientific and political literature.  MBL extends into the Ross Dependency, and EL extends into the Chilean Antarctic Claim, including (specifically) the Bryan Coast (not part of Westarctica) and overlapping the British Claim by a mere 15 arc seconds (who drew these things?). [[User:Baron of Bastanchury|Baron of Bastanchury]] ([[User talk:Baron of Bastanchury|talk]]) 21:07, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
For the record, and for others to dispute if I have this info incorrect: Westarctica has often been described as coterminous with Marie Byrd Land, but this is in error: the specific coordinates for MBL in terms of degrees longitude and latitude actually extend further ''west'' than the boundary of Westarctica, and do not go far enough ''east'' to include the entire country.  Where MBL leaves off, Ellsworth Land begins, and EL extends further ''east'' than the boundaries of Westarctica.  The issue appears to be that MBL and EL are designations of "lands" that have no political significance and very little geological significance, but were labeled and given boundaries at some point and are still used to refer to these "places" in scientific and political literature.  MBL extends into the Ross Dependency, and EL extends into the Chilean Antarctic Claim, including (specifically) the Bryan Coast (not part of Westarctica) and overlapping the British Claim by a mere 15 arc seconds (who drew these things?). [[User:Baron of Bastanchury|Baron of Bastanchury]] ([[User talk:Baron of Bastanchury|talk]]) 21:07, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
It's often said that Westarctica claims all of Marie Byrd Land as its territory, but this is factually incorrect. We actually claim far beyond Marie Byrd Land, but we also leave a few bits of Marie Byrd Land off our claim. For the sake of expediency and accuracy, I generally say: "We claim the previously unclaimed portion of Western Antarctica." However, when laymen ask "Have you claimed Marie Byrd Land?" I generally answer "Yes." [[User:Westarctica]]

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Marie Byrd Land et al.

For the record, and for others to dispute if I have this info incorrect: Westarctica has often been described as coterminous with Marie Byrd Land, but this is in error: the specific coordinates for MBL in terms of degrees longitude and latitude actually extend further west than the boundary of Westarctica, and do not go far enough east to include the entire country. Where MBL leaves off, Ellsworth Land begins, and EL extends further east than the boundaries of Westarctica. The issue appears to be that MBL and EL are designations of "lands" that have no political significance and very little geological significance, but were labeled and given boundaries at some point and are still used to refer to these "places" in scientific and political literature. MBL extends into the Ross Dependency, and EL extends into the Chilean Antarctic Claim, including (specifically) the Bryan Coast (not part of Westarctica) and overlapping the British Claim by a mere 15 arc seconds (who drew these things?). Baron of Bastanchury (talk) 21:07, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

It's often said that Westarctica claims all of Marie Byrd Land as its territory, but this is factually incorrect. We actually claim far beyond Marie Byrd Land, but we also leave a few bits of Marie Byrd Land off our claim. For the sake of expediency and accuracy, I generally say: "We claim the previously unclaimed portion of Western Antarctica." However, when laymen ask "Have you claimed Marie Byrd Land?" I generally answer "Yes." User:Westarctica